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Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
How to Move a Rental Property to a Trust & S-Corp for Asset Protection
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Tuesday Feb 04, 2025
Welcome to Tax Tuesday. Anderson Advisors attorneys Toby Mathis, Esq., and Eliot Thomas, Esq., tackle various tax-related questions. Topics include retroactively claiming real estate deductions and depreciation, handling health insurance premiums for an S-corp, understanding the rules around setting up a trading account under an S-corp, and how to qualify for Real Estate Professional (REP) status while working a W2 job. The attorneys also discuss deadlines for S-election, converting properties for tax purposes, alternative methods for substantiating business expenses, and more. Tune in for valuable insights on managing your tax strategies effectively.
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Highlights/Topics:
- "I need to retroactively claim my real estate deduction or depreciation for my 2022 and 2023 taxes. I actively manage my own rental and have over 700-plus hours per year for real estate management. How do I claim accelerated depreciation for the past years?" - Yes, you can go back and retroactively capture previous depreciation, including accelerated depreciation or bonus depreciation, you do it n the current year. It's a form called 3115.
- "I didn't have my health premiums added to my payroll statements for 2024. I have an S-corp and pay myself and another employee but wanted to deduct health insurance payments. Is there anything I can do at this point? Regarding asset protection, we have a rental property. We'd like to move this to a trust and then to an S-corp. Would that work?" - If the S-Corp it paying the premiums, on our 1040, we can make an adjustment on Schedule 1 for the insurance premiums because we're considered sole proprietor.
- "I have seen some of your videos and had a question about setting up a trading account under an S-corporation. Is this correct? Can I pay my wife $15,000 from it and then match that amount toward a 401(k)? "My wife is a homemaker with low income. If we file just married filing jointly, are there any implications with this move? We are not traders but more investors."- Typically no, we would put it into an S-Corp.
- "My employer recently went through a restructuring. They offered me one year's pay as severance. My last paycheck will be January, 2026. I feel confident that I'll be able to fulfill the REP status requirement for time spent on material real estate management activities in 2025. I will not make more money from my real estate investments as compared to my severance pay. Can I still qualify for the REP status? I used my solo 401(k) to invest in a real estate deal as a passive investor. The bank recently foreclosed the deal. It was a total loss. Is there any deduction that I can take for the loss?" - It’s a common misconception that you can’t get REP status with a W2. It’s about time, not how much you make.
- "When is the deadline to make an S-election for 2025? Can you switch back to sole proprietorship after you elect S-corp in the same year or future years? Do you have to run payroll as an S-corp LLC? What are good indicators or reasons to switch to an S-corp for taxation?" - there's something called late election, very common, we do it all the time. The IRS is very good about allowing it. To be safe it should be done by March 15th.
- "I'm converting a barn on my property to an auxiliary dwelling unit for realm purposes. I also have a separate building on the property that I use as a shop office for my construction business. How do I treat these properties for liability and tax purposes?" - the ADU, the Auxiliary Drilling and Dwelling Unit, that's going to be either a long-term rental or a short-term. You could use the shop office as an admin office. I’d wrap it in an LLC and strip the equity out.
- “My business doesn't have traditional receipts for its expenses. We primarily rely on bank statements to track our spending. What supporting documentation would I need to provide to the IRS or my tax preparer substantiate these expenses and ensure accurate tax deductions? Are there any alternative methods to proving these expenses without traditional receipts?" - A bank statement, credit card statements, can be used, proof of payments, cancelled checks, etc.
- "My business partner and I co-bought a condo in New York City by paying $900,000. He put in $700,000 and own 75%, and I put in $300,000 and own 25%. I'm deeding my ownership to him for $0. What would be his cost basis for future resale?" - Basically this is a gifting, it wasn't, they didn't sell it. So for any amount, so you just carry over the basis. File a 709.
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